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WHEN REALITY SURPASSES FICTION
The truth about the attacks on the Pentagon and the Twin Towers.
Dear professor Velmont: I would like to ask you about the attack on the Pentagon and the flight 77 of American Airlines. According to an internet version it wasn’t an airplane, but a missile. I would like to know the truth about this issue.
Adolfo M.
ANSWER
Dear Adolfo: Recently, I made a session and I consulted Master Ron Hubbard (Ruanel) about this topic. In fact, I was very surprised because I could never imagine what happened really.
In this case, rather than any other one, we can say reality surpasses fiction.
I transcribe you directly the session because it was very exhaustive and it clarifies all the doubts perfectly.
Welcome to the club. A strong hug.
Horacio Velmont.
SESSION OF March/22/2005
Medium: Jorge Olguín.
Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont.
Entity that came to talk: Ron Hubbard, founder of Dianetics and Scientology.
Interlocutor: Are you already incorporated, Master? I expect we haven’t woken you up.
Ron Hubbard: Who has invoked me?
Interlocutor: Master, it has been very funny for me to hear your voice from the beyond imitating the ancient mediums who considered the spirits should talk in that way.
Ron Hubbard: No more jokes. It is important to clarify to readers that spirits (like me) don't sleep. We are aware all the time. We are always awake. Somehow, we can meditate in order to look for some solution or some answer to some doubt we have about somebody who needs to be audited.
Interlocutor: In the spiritual plane, don’t you miss to sleep at all?
Ron Hubbard: We don’t go to sleep because we don't have an organic body.
Interlocutor: Of course. Can we talk now about the Pentagon attack?
Ron Hubbard: All right.
Interlocutor: How was this so controversial issue? I say controversial because there were no remains parts of the airplane that supposedly crashed into the Pentagon. Besides, the airplane that was going to collide with this military complex disappeared from radars and it never appeared again. On the other hand, some people believe it was a missile. Was there any missile?
Ron Hubbard: Yes, there was a missile, but we better begin from the start. The story is this: there was an airplane weighting 60 tons and it had 20.000 liters of fuel. We are speaking of a full-potential airplane which was going to hit the Pentagon commanded by an Arabic who had not the slightest idea about flying a Boeing.
Interlocutor: What happened to that airplane?
Ron Hubbard: There was some kind of dirty trick. There is a planetary system whose inhabitants don't have a long lifespan.
Interlocutor: Are they humans or humanoids?
Ron Hubbard: Their inhabitants are also humans, because they have the same DNA compared to Earth people, but they don't have the technology that terrestrials have here although they can move from one world to another in spaceships and they travel in time. They even have dimensional portals.
When I talk about dimensional portals, I am not referring to the openings like those of science fiction movies, but to worm holes or worms like those made by the aliens from Orion 3 to pass to other worlds.
This is what they had achieved with their technology, but they needed an investigator who could be able to correct their DNA chain because their race was dying.
Interlocutor: What planet are you talking about?
Ron Hubbard: I talk about a planet called Bellatrix IV. It has a blue sun or rather a bluish light. But I continue telling you the story because it is very important to understand what happened to the Pentagon.
There are races in the universe that make progress in a subject, such as space trips, but they don't develop other subjects, such as genetic code.
This race from Bellatrix IV has made enormous advances in many topics, which didn't prevent its planet to get divided into two factions: the North Hemisphere and the South Hemisphere. Both sides had been declared some kind of war.
Interlocutor: Now I see war happens everywhere.
Ron Hubbard: That’s right. The rebels from the South Hemisphere launched missiles to the inhabitants from the North Hemisphere (the peaceful people) to destroy their cities.
These were energy missiles and didn’t leave almost any traces when exploding. It was a missile that directly destroyed places, but without leaving any remains because the matter itself of the missile disappeared when impacting.
These beings could travel through dimensional portals, if you want to call them that way, to other worlds, and they visualized Planet Earth by using those portals in a given moment.
While there were portals in the Pyramids so that aliens from Orion 3 could travel through them to their own planet, these beings from Bellatrix IV were able to visualize what happened on September 11th, 2001, in the United States, by using some devices similar to terrestrial televisions.
So they saw there was an airplane that was going to hit the Pentagon.
Interlocutor: The airplane flown by that insane suicidal rookie?
Ron Hubbard: Correct. Among the passengers of that airplane there were doctors, an ambassador and also two expert scientists in molecular biology, those who correct DNA chains and similar things.
Bellatrix IV aliens took so much interest in these two scientists.
Interlocutor: And they could receive the images with their devices?
Ron Hubbard: Yes, but they also traveled through time one day before September 11th and studied the whole event.
Interlocutor: Do you want to tell me that they were aware of everything because they had traveled through time and investigated it?
Ron Hubbard: Just like that. And they also knew that a terrorist attack was going to happen.
Interlocutor: Wow, how interesting! And why didn’t they avoid it?
Rum Hubbard: They didn't avoid it because they didn’t care about that, since their purpose was another. Mostly, beings from other worlds do not get involve in terrestrial conflicts, neither political nor territorial.
Interlocutor: What did they do then?
Ron Hubbard: Now I tell you what will be the most controversial part for readers. They made what you may call on Planet Earth “double play". When the Boeing was within a few kilometers from the Pentagon, they put a dimensional portal in front of the airplane, so they abducted all passengers to Bellatrix IV.
Interlocutor: That’s why it had disappeared from the radars!
Ron Hubbard: Sure, it was the first play, but the second one was this: Immediately, in milliseconds, Bellatrix IV beings from North Hemisphere replaced the Boeing with the missile shot by the aliens from South Hemisphere against them. They could replace it because, besides their technology to control the portal, they could control time.
Interlocutor: Incredible! Now more than ever we can say that “reality surpasses fiction."
Ron Hubbard: And that missile which was going to hit the city from North Hemisphere impacts the Pentagon.
Interlocutor: As we say here in the physical plane, “this is pure madness”.
Ron Hubbard: I am sure you will think how cruel the beings from the North Hemisphere of Bellatrix IV are. However, they are not cruel, but rather they are merciful, honest and peaceful. The cruel ones are those from the South Hemisphere.
Interlocutor: I can’t understand very well. If they are "good people", why they let that missile hit the Pentagon and kill people?
Ron Hubbard: Well, if a lawyer were going to defend beings from North Hemisphere, he would say: "After all the destruction caused by the missile was the same destruction that the airplane would have caused. On the other hand, they saved all the passengers from death".
Interlocutor: How did they do it?
Ron Hubbard: They have a very advanced technology and they simply managed electromagnetic forces.
Interlocutor: Then, were all the passengers taken to Bellatrix IV?
Ron Hubbard: That’s right. Even the crazy Iraqi pilot was changed his mind. They modified some of his neurons and now he is more peaceful.
Interlocutor: Did they brainwash him?
Ron Hubbard: Do you mean like Nazi techniques?
Interlocutor: Yes, something like that.
Ron Hubbard: No, not at all. They have only modified something from his decoder, so he catch better the concepts from sent by his Thetan. Now, despite of being a spirit or error from plane 3, he is less belligerent.
Interlocutor: Are the passengers comfortable in Bellatrix IV?
Ron Hubbard: They suffered no emotional shock because they knew that the airplane was hijacked by terrorists, it was going to crash and they were going to die inevitably. Moreover, one of the Iraqis was pointing to the crew and the passengers with a machine gun.
Interlocutor: How could that machine gun pass the inspection and get into the airplane?
Ron Hubbard: The obvious explanation is that there were many faults in the security system of the airport. As a consequence of the "everything is because of something", now airports are set in "Orange Alert" and today it is practically impossible to enter with weapons to the airplanes.
Interlocutor: Sure.
Ron Hubbard: Returning to the incident, two video cameras were able to film the missile which was replaced by the beings from Bellatrix IV.
Interlocutor: What was the missile speed?
Ron Hubbard: It reached almost 1440 miles per hour at one point.
Interlocutor: Did the video cameras film the replacement?
Ron Hubbard: We can say yes, because there was a camera filming the airplane that was going to the Pentagon.
Interlocutor: And then it was seen how the airplane disappeared and the missile appeared suddenly?
Ron Hubbard: The missile was not seen, but just something like a figure that flew at tremendous speed close to the floor, at almost 60 centimeters from it.
Notice that the missile crossed a freeway at 1440 miles per hour. However, it didn't damage any car. If it had been an airplane, the shock wave itself of the airplane had overturned all the vehicles in his path.
Interlocutor: But a missile should not have caused the same effect?
Ron Hubbard: No, because this missile was not made of the same material than terrestrial missiles, since it was an energetic projectile.
Interlocutor: Now I understand.
Ron Hubbard: An airplane, if you want, sweeps the air in the same way as a fan does. On the other hand, that energetic missile didn't move the air due to its energetic nature. Then the air practically didn't make any resistance.
Interlocutor: Now I understand why there were any traces, something that intrigues enormously to the investigators.
Ron Hubbard: Pentagon have five very big walls of concrete that a terrestrial missile could not penetrate and even less an airplane. But however, this energetic missile did it.
Besides, it is obvious that an airplane of the characteristics of a Boeing could not penetrate in such a small hole in which only the cockpit would enter. It means that the rest of the airplane, wings, fuselage, etc., would have been visible and there are pictures that reveal that none of this happened.
Interlocutor: That is what intrigued everyone. The pictures reveal clearly that there was no airplane crashed against the Pentagon. And where did the energetic missile end up?
Ron Hubbard: In the center of the Pentagon, after penetrating the five walls.
Interlocutor: And what did the witnesses who worked inside the Pentagon see? I mean to the energetic missile.
Ron Hubbard: They didn’t see anything. They only saw a force that destroyed everything and they heard tremendous explosions.
Interlocutor: And what is the proof they have that it was a missile?
Ron Hubbard: None, because they don't know it. The only proof they have is the destruction, but they don't know with certainty what caused it.
Interlocutor: In the previous session you said that Pentagon officers knew what had happened. In what way did they know?
Ron Hubbard: In the Pentagon they conjecture that it was an extraterrestrial attack.
Interlocutor: Well, somehow they are not wrong.
Ron Hubbard: Sure, because it was an extraterrestrial attack. But it was not an attack in the traditional warlike way.
Interlocutor: This is perfectly clear. Now I have a question related to that Iraqi pilot. Would he have been able to impact the plane on the Pentagon in spite of being an amateur? I ask this because the expert pilots say that a beginner could never have traveled with a Boeing closer to the floor to impact in that place.
Ron Hubbard: That airplane, considering its direction before being absorbed by the dimensional portal, had the tendency to fall on the adjacent grass to the Pentagon.
Interlocutor: It means that if the alien had not abducted that airplane it would have smashed on the grass and it would have appeared the destroyed airplane and countless corpses?
Ron Hubbard: Correct. When the airplane is replaced by the missile, the missile doesn't follow the same direction of the Boeing and because of that it impacted the Pentagon.
Interlocutor: That’s clear.
Ron Hubbard: There are a lot of pictures about it and, as I already told you, two videos.
Interlocutor: Were these videos destroyed?
Ron Hubbard: The military authorities wanted to do it, but when they arrived there, those videos had already been released to the public. In any case the official version is still the same: an airplane commanded by an Iraqi impacted the Pentagon that day.
Interlocutor: Which is a nonsense.
Ron Hubbard: Of course. They say that the enormous friction disintegrated the airplane, where are the bodies then?
Interlocutor: In any case nobody believes the official version.
Ron Hubbard: It would be absurd if somebody believes it.
Interlocutor: It seems that it’s perfectly clarified. Now I want to move on to the Twin Towers' attack.
Ron Hubbard: There is still something important to clarify related to the North Hemisphere of Bellatrix IV. Those two expert scientists in molecular biology, who were in the Boeing were grateful to the beings who saved them from a certain death, have been cooperating with them since the date of the abduction in order to prolong their race. Both planets have the same time measure.
And the Southern region, which was a big enemy of the Northern region, believed they had discovered the technology to neutralize their energetic missiles. So they surrendered.
Interlocutor: Did the South ever know that the North deviated the trajectory of the missile to another planet?
Rum Hubbard: No, they didn't know it. They thought they had neutralized it with a gravitational field. This circumstance impelled them to the peace and now the scientists from the South are cooperating with those from the North in DNA experiments.
Now move on to the Twin Towers attack.
Interlocutor: Well. The main issue here is: How could Bin Laden and some inexpert pilots able to carry out the necessary logistics to demolish with so much precision two towers of so enormous size in 9 seconds?. The first question, logically, was there an extraterrestrial intervention here?
Ron Hubbard: No, there was not any extraterrestrial intervention.
Interlocutor: Then how was it? Because I saw the destruction of the buildings due to explosions and in that case the experts took several months preparing them. They put the explosives charges in several parts of the buildings carefully located to make them collapse.
Ron Hubbard: Let us begin from the start. The pilot who was going to impact the Pentagon was an amateur, but the other two pilots commanding the airplanes that impacted the Twin Towers were very expert and they knew very well what they were doing.
Interlocutor: I find here another of the many mistakes made by the investigators, because they said the pilots were not experts. Well, now I ask how the Towers could collapse due to the impact of the airplanes. Were there saboteurs that put dynamite inside the buildings?
Ron Hubbard: No, there was no such thing. Besides, dynamite couldn’t destroy the Towers as they were destroyed. The fact was different.
Unlike towers are made of concrete in other countries, the Twin Towers were practically made of metal because of its 400 mts. high and its structure would have tolerated any impact. They were stronger than the towers made of concrete.
The weakest point was in the same steel, because if those Towers had been made of concrete, the airplanes would have broken the structure, but it wouldn’t have melted it.
The fuel that exploded produced an enormous heat that practically melted the steel.
Interlocutor: But how could the buildings collapse in 9 seconds as the investigators said? Practically in free fall? The experts say that it’s something impossible with a single explosion of fuel.
Ron Hubbard: That is false, because the buildings didn't fall in 9 seconds. If we talk about 9, we could say it was 9 minutes, but not 9 seconds.
Interlocutor: Well, here I see another mistake of the investigators.
Ron Hubbard: The towers collapsed in the time the steel took for melting.
Interlocutor: And the dust in which the towers were turned into? Because as it was said no pieces of the buildings were found.
Ron Hubbard: That is also false. In the towers destruction there is no strange thing, no trap, and no enigma. There was dust that spread over twenty blocks, but definitely there was debris.
The remains of the airplanes have been found, there were burned bodies, pieces of objects, etc. There was no mystery. The only abnormal thing, if one wants to call it this way, it is that the disaster was witnessed by extraterrestrial ships.
Interlocutor: Yes, that has already been clarified some time ago in another session. Where were the ships coming from?
Ron Hubbard: From several origins, from Espiga, from Bellatrix IV. Exactly, the ship that was filmed belongs to Bellatrix IV.
Interlocutor: And it was filmed very clearly.
Rum Hubbard: That’s right.
Interlocutor: Was it entirely a terrorist attack or was there connivance with the American government? The concrete question I make in the first place is if the American government higher authorities knew about the attack that would take place, in the same way that happened to Pearl Harbor?
Rum Hubbard: Yes, both cases are similar. They knew that those events were going to happen, but they didn't prevent them due to negligence.
Interlocutor: Negligence or connivance?
Rum Hubbard: No, not connivance. Negligence.
Interlocutor: Then, in both of the two cases they let those events happen in order to take advantage of the juncture? For example, in the case of Pearl Harbor, so that the United States could have the excuse to enter in the war and, in the case of Bush's government, to attack Iraq.
Rum Hubbard: No, that is a mistake. In both cases there was negligence. In the case of Pearl Harbor, if you review the history a little, you will realize that the United States practically didn't have in that time any warlike capacity.
After the attack to Pearl Harbor they had to work in the factories 24 hours a day to be prepared, with weapons, airplanes, etc. Even if the day had had more hours they would have worked them also.
Interlocutor: Is it an entire infamy then to suspect that Roosevelt let the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor as an excuse to enter in war?
Ron Hubbard: Completely. On the contrary, he had so much incapacity before the attack due to the lack of armament that he gave an order to work intensely for all the factories to get ready and give a lesson to the Japanese.
He even ordered to all the steel factories that were making other things to stop making that things and begin to build weapons.
For example, the auto parts factories, cars, etc., supported the factories of airplanes and armaments for many months.
Interlocutor: But didn't the United States press to Japan so that they attacked them like some historians say?
Ron Hubbard: No, not at all. It was a total act of betrayal on behalf of the Japanese.
Interlocutor: Concretely, the United States didn’t want to enter in war and they didn't have any choice than doing it after Pearl Harbor?
Ron Hubbard: That’s right. And luckily for the Freedom of the World in that time, because it was the United States the country that turned the war around, otherwise the war would have be won by Germany, Japan and Italy.
Interlocutor: I understand.
Ron Hubbard: Returning to the 2001, the attack to the twin Towers was the result of a total act of negligence on behalf of the government because many people had warned to the responsible authorities that an attack was planned against an important objective, but not military, in the heart of New York.
Interlocutor: It’s clear enough. Then all the people who wrote books outlining the hypothesis of an inside job have been influenced by the Spirits of Error? I ask this because, considering what you are telling me now, they have faked the facts. Even I believed those false facts.
Ron Hubbard: Of course the Spirits of Error are behind! We can be able to criticize the United States government whether it is bad or good in the way in which it is leading the country, but never reproach to their own Nation with an excuse to make an invasion.
Interlocutor: Then, can I say with capital letters that such perversion didn't exist?
Ron Hubbard: Yes, you can put it with capital letters. NO.
Interlocutor: Do I have to presume then that all those who have written about a hypothesis of an inside job are mere slanderers?
Ron Hubbard: I would say that they are trader because speaking of an inside job helps the sell books.
Interlocutor: Can we say that Bush administration took advantage of the Twin Towers attack for their own purposes?
Ron Hubbard: Yes, but not that they showed the red color to the bull so that it charged at them and having the excuse to kill him saying: "he attacked me first." This is totally discarded.
Interlocutor: Ok, I believe this point is clear now. Returning to the Twin Towers attack, was there some “Luck” factor?
Ron Hubbard: Keep in mind that at the distance the Towers were small, but when they were closer they were enormous buildings.
Interlocutor: Were they military pilots?
Ron Hubbard: No, they were civilians, but with a lot of flight knowledge.
Interlocutor: Were they merely suicidal?
Ron Hubbard: Yes, totally. Besides they chose them well. They had very good record. Their behavior was commendable. In that time the airports had less security, so they showed their aviator identification card under perfect conditions, with a irreproachable sheet of services, with the best backgrounds.
Interlocutor: It means that the attack was prepared during many months and nothing was improvised?
Ron Hubbard: Yes, of course. They even had other pilots in reserve with the same skills in the case that of the main pilots got sick or had some crisis or any other impediment to fly.
Interlocutor: I keep thinking the Twin Towers attack was something astonishing since it was perfect for the terrorists. Do you ratify me that there was not any explosive inside the buildings?
Ron Hubbard: No, because what exploded and produced the Towers to fall was the fuel of the airplanes. Don't forget that we are speaking about 20.000 liters of very flammable fuel in the tanks of each airplane.
Interlocutor: I read in some article that in order for the steel to be melted, it is necessary more temperature than the produced by the explosion of the fuel.
Ron Hubbard: No, it is not like that. The increase of temperature produced by the explosion of fuel was enough to melt the steel. Besides, the same heat reacted rising at considerable levels. The structure collapsed because each floor impacted on the other below and there was not any support that could stop the collapse.
Interlocutor: Was an implosion or something similar to an implosion?
Ron Hubbard: No, it was not an implosion itself, but they directly fell apart on themselves. What implosion makes is remove the air and the collapse goes inwardly, but in this case it was like a "pancake", it means that each floor that collapsed impacted on the others below.
Interlocutor: Do you say that nothing was coincidence in this case?
Ron Hubbard: No, it was not coincidence because everything was calculated.
Interlocutor: But the effect produced by the impacts was better than the terrorist expected?
Ron Hubbard: Yes, because they didn't expect the Towers to collapse in the way that happened.
Interlocutor: Another thing I have to ask you is about the investigators. It is intriguing that any journalist can interview Bin Laden but the Intelligence services of United States cannot locate him.
Ron Hubbard: That is false, because not anyone can interview him. Only those people who are trustworthy can meet him and before they must go through many controls.
Interlocutor: Nothing to do, like they say, that if the United States finds him the game is over?
Ron Hubbard: No, because if they find him the game is not over, since others will appear and the thing will continue. In fact, Bin Laden is not a person but a character, if we understand the difference. If he disappears, immediately another of similar charisma will appear.
Interlocutor: Will they be preparing another attack?
Ron Hubbard: As long as fundamentalism exists, there will always be attacks.
Interlocutor: Why did so few people die? I believe that it was said that less than three thousand people died. It was calculated that at least twenty thousand people should have been working at the moment of the attack. Is not that strange?
Ron Hubbard: No, not at all. The attack to the towers was carried out very early, and the group of workers accessing to the place were supposed to enter almost a half hour or one hour later.
Interlocutor: Is this all the mystery?
Ron Hubbard: That’s right.
Interlocutor: Then, definitely, all those who are speculating about an inside job are falsifying the facts?
Rum Hubbard: What they are doing is selling books.
Interlocutor: I understand the irony. Would it be something else to add about this topic?
Ron Hubbard: Only related to the fact that the beings of Bellatrix IV have taken the airplane. With this act they have saved lives that otherwise would have died when impacting on the floor. I say impacting on the floor because in the way the airplane was going, it would have crashed on the adjacent grass of the Pentagon. It wouldn’t have touched the Pentagon.
Interlocutor: Do the passengers of the airplane who are now in Bellatrix IV miss their families?
Ron Hubbard: Yes, of course, and many of them are going to what here in the Earth we call psychologists. Some of them have even proposed to abduct their relatives so that they be together again, but the beings of Bellatrix have refused saying that they are dead to them and they should be considered this way. They have been told that they should think that they are living a borrowed life.
Interlocutor: Have these people adapted to that planet?
Ron Hubbard: Yes, they have adapted themselves perfectly. They even have freedom to work in whatever they want or study music, literature and other arts.
Interlocutor: Has some Thetans of the Twin Towers' workers warned somehow to their 10% incarnated bodies so that they wouldn’t go to work that day?
Ron Hubbard: No, not in this case.
SESIÓN DEL 21/3/05
Médium : Jorge Olguín.
Interlocutor : Horacio Velmont.
Entidad que se presentó a dialogar : Ron Hubbard, fundador de Dianética y Cienciología.
Interlocutor: Sabemos que a Benjamín Solari Parravicini se lo considera un profeta y también sabemos que cuando lo consultamos con ustedes la respuesta es que las profecías no existen porque nadie puede saber el futuro, salvo el Absoluto y los viajeros del tiempo, que como pauta no lo dirán, salvo las infidencias que puedan cometer estos últimos.
Aclarado esto, mi pregunta es: ¿cómo es posible que esta persona haya podido anticipar de alguna manera el ataque a las Torres Gemelas, porque en un dibujo que hizo sobre la Estatua de la Libertad se ve a ésta partida en dos con una leyenda de su puño y letra que dice: "La libertad de Norteamérica perderá su luz, su antorcha no alumbrará como ayer y el monumento será atacado dos veces".
Mi pregunta, quizás un poco necia, es volverle a preguntar para ratificarlo, ¿no hubo para nada ninguna infidencia de algún viajero del tiempo, sea de la parte encarnada de este viajero o de su Thetán?
Ron Hubbard: Podemos pensar que la referencia es a las Torres Gemelas y a infinidad de cosas más, como a dos ataques directamente a la estatua.
Interlocutor: Que pueden suceder o no.
Ron Hubbard: Exacto, que pueden suceder o no. El hecho de que el ataque haya sido a las Torres gemelas y dejar en "Alerta Naranja" permanente a los aeropuertos, seguramente impide otros ataques que tal vez podrían dirigirse a la Estatua de la Libertad.
Interlocutor: ¿Usted me está queriendo decir que en el dibujo de Parravicini y en su leyenda cada uno puede interpretar lo que quiera a su antojo?
Ron Hubbard: Correcto.
Interlocutor: ¿Y en este caso interpretar que el dibujo y leyenda de Parravicini se refiere a las Torres Gemelas es totalmente antojadizo?
Ron Hubbard: Así es.
Interlocutor: ¿Así de simple?
Ron Hubbard: Así de simple. ¿Por qué quieres ver complicaciones donde no las hay?
Interlocutor: ¿Pero acaso tuvo alguna intuición o fueron los espíritus del Error que se lo dictaron?
Ron Hubbard: Ni lo uno ni lo otro, fue directamente su mente reactiva. Hay muchos supuestos profetas que han hablado generalidades como que "se descubrirá el secreto de las Pirámides", ¡y con esto hay tanta tela para hilar!.
Interlocutor: Es decir que cuando alguien "profetiza" con generalidades esta profecía terminando siendo como el famoso Test de Roscharch, donde cada uno ve lo que quiere ver.
Ron Hubbard: Exacto.
Interlocutor: ¿Concretamente, entonces, ni de casualidad, se relaciona lo que dijo Parravicini con los viajeros del tiempo?, la única forma, por otra parte, de anticipar el futuro.
Ron Hubbard: Tú lo has dicho: ni de casualidad. Tienes que comprender que algo como lo que ha dibujado y ha dicho esta persona es algo muy distinto a contactarse por ejemplo con un águila -estoy hablando metafóricamente- y que el águila diga "veo una pequeña inundación, que se va a acercar y en menos de diez o doce horas va a estar aquí", y que la hormiga que está a ras del suelo diga que "eso es una tontería".
Esto es creíble, y ya pasó cuando Ketter, el Anciano de los Días, predijo años atrás que en el centro de la galaxia había un agujero negro. No fue ningún predestinador ni ningún adivino. Simplemente lo dijo por tener la técnica y estar contactado con seres que estaban cerca de ese centro de la galaxia. Esto no es adivinación y es válido.
Obviamente, si hubiera un viajero del tiempo que se lo está "soplando" a tu Thetán y tú lo dices, también es válido. Pero en el caso de esta persona no fue ninguna de las dos cosas.
Puede haber cosas que se dicen y son intuitivas. De pronto uno puede decir que caerá tal gobierno en tal país o cosas parecidas, pero esto entra dentro de la lógica de la especulación y nada más.
Interlocutor: ¿Por qué puede habérsele ocurrido a Parravicini algo así?
Ron Hubbard: Simplemente porque su mente reactiva estaba en contra de la supuesta libertad, que para él era opresiva, de Estados Unidos. Y la referencia a que la Estatua de la Libertad va a ser golpeada dos veces no fue más que una expresión de deseos manifestada de esa manera. No hay más que esto.
Interlocutor: ¿Usted puede percibir en qué estaba pensando Parravicini cuando hizo el dibujo y escribió la leyenda?
Ron Hubbard: Sí, por supuesto: su mente reactiva, como dije, estaba en contra de la supuesta libertad de Estados Unidos, como diciendo que oprimía a otros países mediante una supuesta democracia y entonces su mente reactiva lo hizo "predecir" irracionalmente de esa manera. Fue nada más que una expresión de deseos destructiva manifestada de la forma en que lo hizo.
Interlocutor: Es decir, en concreto, que las interpretaciones que se hacen en la actualidad de ese dibujo de Parravicini y su texto nada tienen que ver con lo que sucedió con las Torres Gemelas.
Ron Hubbard: Correcto. Es algo parecido a que tú tengas un coche pequeño y veas a una persona con un coche importado y entonces tú digas: "Predigo que esta persona chocará contra un muro de cemento y se hará puré". Y lo único que estás haciendo es manifestar una fuerte expresión de deseos de que tal cosa suceda. Si luego ese automóvil choca, eso no significa que tú hayas predicho nada.
Interlocutor: ¿Todo esto quiere decir que si Parravicini hubiera dicho que el monumento será atacado tres veces estarían esperando un tercer ataque?
Ron Hubbard: Si hubiera dicho tres veces también sería válido porque incluirían el ataque al Pentágono. Y también sería válido si hubiera dicho que será atacado una sola vez, porque fue en un solo día.
Interlocutor: ¿Está Jorge como para seguir y tocar directamente el tema del ataque a las Torres Gemelas y al Pentágono?
Ron Hubbard: No, lo tendremos que dejar para la próxima sesión.
Interlocutor: Bien, pero por lo menos quisiera saber si hay algo raro en todo esto. Lo pregunto porque estuve estudiando el tema y los datos que hay no concuerdan para nada.
Ron Hubbard: Hubo intervención extraterrestre.
Interlocutor: ¡No me diga! ¡Con razón las piezas no encajaban! ¿Ellos lo saben?
Ron Hubbard: ¡Pero por supuesto que lo saben! ¿Cómo no lo van a saber?
Interlocutor: ¿Por eso lo ocultan?
Ron Hubbard: ¡Claro que sí! Ellos no han encontrado nada, ningún resto del avión que presuntamente se iba a estrellar en el Pentágono.
Interlocutor: ¿Usted me está diciendo que Bin Laden no tuvo nada que ver?
Ron Hubbard: No, lo que estoy diciendo es que los extraterrestres aprovecharon la oportunidad.
Interlocutor: Ahora entiendo. Bueno, no quiero profundizar más porque prefiero dejarlo para la próxima sesión donde profundizaremos en el tema. ¿Le parece bien?
Ron Hubbard: De acuerdo.
Interlocutor: ¿Algo más que quiera agregar?
Ron Hubbard: No, solamente que estoy muy entusiasmado de volverme a contactar contigo por intermedio de este receptáculo.
Interlocutor: Antes de concluir la sesión quiero comentarle algo que me ha ocurrido en esta sesión que en ninguna otra me sucedió, y es que Jorge desapareció completamente y en la habitación estábamos solamente usted y yo. Me extraña porque en las otras sesiones siempre éramos tres, pero en esta no. Es una rara sensación de una fuerte presencia suya aquí.
Ron Hubbard: Es por mi mismo entusiasmo. Hay un aprecio personal. Uno dice que en el plano 5º no hay aprecio personal. Sí que lo hay. Nosotros sabemos que tenemos más afinidad con unos espíritus que con otros, pero como los espíritus de los planos IVº y 5º no tenemos ego, no nos ofendemos si de repente yo tengo más afinidad con unos espíritus que con otros.
Yo contigo, Horacio, tengo una afinidad, del uno al diez, de diez. Tal vez con otra entidad tengo una afinidad ocho, y si esa entidad es una entidad de Luz no se va a ofender por ello, porque la ofensa es ego.
Los dejo con toda mi Luz.
Interlocutor: Hasta luego, Maestro, y gracias.
Los científicos que viajaban en el avión abducido.
Estimado profesor Velmont: Respecto a lo del avión del pentágono resulta que estuve revisando la lista oficial de pasajeros del vuelo 77 de AA y efectivamente hay dos personas que trabajaban en el área de investigación genética, pero no son hombres sino mujeres: Dora Menchaca de 45 años y Lisa Raines de 42.
La lista oficial está aquí: http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html
Adicionalmente, otro punto es que los secuestradores no eran Iraquíes sino de Arabia Saudita.
Finalmente, me gustaría que también le diera crédito a Xavier (el muchacho de Barcelona) con quien suelo intercambiar mensajes y hablando sobre este tema fue que dimos con las dos señoras genetistas.
Dar Ta-el.
RESPUESTA
Apreciado Dar Ta-el: Te agradezco los datos pues no los conocía. Coincidentemente hace unos día un consultante me comentó que no había ningún científico en el avión desaparecido y no supe qué responderle.
Desde ya que hago extensivo el agradecimiento a Xavier.
Un fuerte abrazo.
Horacio Velmont.
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